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Saturday, January 05, 2008

An Interesting Quote From the Koran

Those whom Allah wills to guide, He opens their breast to Islam; Those whom He wills to leave straying, - he makes their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus does Allah lay abomination on those who refuse to believe.
The Qur’an: Surah 6:125 (Islam)

Now let us look at the quote with some corresponding jargon from protestant Christianity inserted (in parentheses).

Those whom Allah (in his plan) wills to guide (the elect), He opens their breast (regenerates, effectually calls) to Islam; Those whom He wills (in his predetermined plan) to leave straying (passes by), - he makes their breast close and constricted (reprobates), as if they had to climb up to the skies (makes salvation an impossibility): thus does Allah lay abomination (eternal damnation) on those who refuse to believe.

I think it is interesting how in the first part of the quote Allah is opening the breast and he "wills to guide" certain ones while he leaves others straying. Yet, in the last sentence he condemns those who "refuse to believe." This sounds contradictory. How can they refuse to believe Islam if they have been willed to be guided by Allah and have had their breast opened? On the other hand, what else could they do but "refuse to believe" if they have not been guided by Allah and have not had their breast opened? I suppose if I were to talk to a Muslim scholar about this he would be able to explain how it is not as contradictory as it sounds.

35 Comments:

  • "I suppose if I were to talk to a Muslim scholar about this he would be able to explain how it is not as contradictory as it sounds."

    What a generous and charitable thought. That's my reasonable Rose~!

    I suppose it is advocating a form of compatibilism.

    Compatibilism combines both the notion of a morally free-will with determinism.

    So a person freely choose to do an act and is responsible for the consequences, yet their free choice was pre-determined.

    On a merely human level, the choice was a free moral act, but from a transcendental point of view it was pre-determined.

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 1/05/2008 12:23 PM  

  • Hi Rose,

    Any so called comparison with Protestant Christianity falls in these important points which then really makes it enviable:

    [i] The sinner hardens or closes his own heart. Where the Bible attributes such hardening to God, then it is judicial in nature i.e. a response on God's part to the sinner's own hardness. If the sinner did not harden his heart, then God would not judicially harden it.
    [ii] Any impossibility in salvation lies in the sinfulness of the sinner - it is impossible for an unbelieving and impenitent sinner to be saved. Again, this is standard Evangelical fare.

    Regards,

    By Blogger GOODNIGHTSAFEHOME, at 1/05/2008 12:56 PM  

  • Rose,

    Interesting comparison, another interesting point here is that Muslims, i.e.Averroes, et al, used Aristotelian categories to articulate who God was prior to Thomas Aquinas' integration of Aristotle with Christian theology (in fact it was through the Muslims that the Christian West came across Aristotle). Anyway, there is a link in the history of ideas here.

    By Anonymous bobby grow, at 1/05/2008 4:17 PM  

  • Interesting post - thanks Rose!

    By Blogger Jon Lee, at 1/05/2008 5:03 PM  

  • Rose, interesting quote...as I mentioned in earlier comments you do have a knack for finding controversial stuff. :)

    I do believe the islamic religion is about as fatalistic as it gets. Perhaps some good Calvinist could explain how Christianity differs in this essence?

    Bobby, I was wondering if you would show up again.

    By Blogger Jim, at 1/05/2008 10:13 PM  

  • Hey Jim,

    Yes, thanks to voice recognition software I am making a humble comeback ;-).

    By Anonymous Bobby Grow, at 1/06/2008 1:58 AM  

  • I do believe the islamic religion is about as fatalistic as it gets. Perhaps some good Calvinist could explain how Christianity differs in this essence?

    I think we would need a good chat to an orthodox Muslim to see just what exactly he believes (as opposed to what we think he believes or what some explosive laden terrorist says he believes. I would imagine that the main difference lies in the fact (apart from the Allah and Jehovah issues) is that the Calvinist also believes in man's responsibility and acts accordingly. I believe that the day of my death has been appointed by God for a certain date. This encourages me to think that I am immortal until my work is done on earth. But I still look both ways crossing the road. I still wear warm clothes in winter and avoid certain areas at night. I know that the powers that be are ordained of God, but I still vote according to my conscience as instructed by the word of God etc.

    As I say, I can't answer for the Muslim. But I can categorically deny that Calvinism is a fatalistic religion. The wording of the original article referred to Protestant Christianity. The term "Protestant work ethic" has passed into common use and in many ways says it all.

    By Blogger GOODNIGHTSAFEHOME, at 1/06/2008 4:03 AM  

  • Colin, I believe Muslims affirm man's responsibility. If they did not, they would not talk about a day of judgment.

    God Bless

    Matthew

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 1/06/2008 7:50 AM  

  • Are you feeling responsible today, Rose?

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 1/06/2008 7:50 AM  

  • Hi Rose

    It sounds to me Calvinism has much in common with the Muslim relegion. That does not supprize me because there both man-made systems.

    blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/06/2008 6:59 PM  

  • Hi Matthew,
    I love it on those rare occasions when you use an explanation point. :~) Your explantion is educational as always, Matthew.

    Hello Goodnight,
    I think the things you say there are interesting.
    God responds to the sinner? Hmmmm.... So when Romans 9 says "whom He wills He hardens" you admit that there is a cause for that in the sinner and not the decree of God. Oh good.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/07/2008 9:09 AM  

  • Hi Bobby,
    Wow, that is really interesting. Thanks you so much for adding that. It is good to have you back around.

    Hi Jon,
    You're welcome. :~)

    Jim,
    It is not that hard to find controversial stuff - it is everywhere! :~)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/07/2008 9:33 AM  

  • Matthew,
    Yes, I am feeling very responsible today.

    Alvin,
    Ye, it does seem to be similar to some of the Calvinistic things we read. This is probably just a coincidence.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/07/2008 9:35 AM  

  • Look at this and compare it to the quote from the Koran:

    By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life; and others foreordained to everlasting death.
    Wherefore, they who are elected are effectually called unto faith in Christ by His Spirit. Neither are any other redeemed by Christ, effectually called, justified, adopted, sanctified, and saved, but the elect only. The rest of mankind God was pleased to pass by and reprobate; and to ordain them to dishonor and wrath for their sin, to the praised of His glorious justice.


    The Westminster Confession

    Uncanny.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/07/2008 9:36 AM  

  • Hi Rose

    I have a CD called “Five Points From the Dark Side of Calvinism” by George Bryson. And this is about a talk that Loraine Boettner gave before a Reformed group. Towards the end of this CD during the question and answer time, here is the question that is asked: What’s the difference between the Calvinistic god which is responsible for evil and the god of Islam that’s responsible for evil?
    Bryson answers the question quote:
    According to Loraine Boettner he appeals to Christians to open up to the possibility of predestination may be true. Even though he is talking to a reformed audience he is really inviting others to give the reformed view a fair hearing because after all could all those (this is my interpretation of what he says, these are my words) after all could all those Muslims be wrong. I mean they all believe in predestination. Are we saying there’s nothing to it.

    So he appeals to the biblical view of predestination based on the Islamic view. And if you know anything about scripture you should know that there nothing alike. I don’t know why he made such a basic elementary mistake but it’s a serious mistake. So the argument that God can do a horrible thing because He’s God ultimately, ultimately might in reformed theology makes right! End quote.

    Also George Bryson talks about R.C. Sproul Jr. book "Almighty Over All" Which shows God to be the Monster. Bryson call's it the 6th point of Calvinism, the dark side.

    Blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/08/2008 12:02 AM  

  • Good Morning Rose

    Here is a little more from that CD.

    Quote: What Sproul says here in a nutshell is I've discovered through reformed theology that God is the monster. Behind every rape behind every murder behind every child molestation. I know I'm using extreme examples, but those are examples of sin. Behind every act of terrorism behind every awful deed that was ever done God didn't simply allow it, God according to R.C.Sproul Jr. caused it. Now I got James White to admit the same thing on a National radio program and Calvinist have been jumping all over him. I follow this on the internet, their really mad at him not because of what he said wasn't true according to reformed theology but because he admitted it. end quote

    The darkside of the 6th point of Calvinism. I'm troubled because of what Calvinism says because of what it says about mankind and I think that is a legitimate. I care about my fellowman. But I'm also concerned about the character assassination of God. But the son of the famous R.C. Sproul Sr. who beats around the bush when it comes to this issue has been in a sense chastised by his son without his son coming out against him by writing these words. end quote

    blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/08/2008 7:05 AM  

  • Hi Rose,

    Just taking my new blogger ID out for a spin. I will let you know when I get the site up and functional.

    Kurt (formerly KS).

    By Blogger Kurt, at 1/08/2008 2:47 PM  

  • Interesting thoughts, Alvin. :~)

    Kurt,
    Welcome to blogger! How cool.
    (Now I can call you "Kurt" and not "KS").
    We will look forward to any and all that you have to add to the discussion around these parts. God bless.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/08/2008 3:43 PM  

  • Hi Rose
    I see Calvinist like Colin and others try to soften up there Calvinism so it's more easier to get down ha!ha! But if you take Calvinism to it's logical end then God has to be the Monster because He would be the first cause of anything. Because at first there was just God then came the angels then Adam and Eve and they were all created good. But if you don't go to extreems and realize that God is good and hates sin, you will see God in harmony with the rest of His attributes. You would ask the question would God cause sin when He hates sin? No! But I believe He created with the ability to make a choice. How else would man and angels really be able to love God unless God was willing to take that chance. The Calvinist would make man dead like a rock, not able to do anything so God has to do it all. Lately this verse has been coming to my mind quite abit. Tell me what you think. Was God just toying with Cain or could Cain actually make a choice?

    Genesis 4:6,7 So the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?
    "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

    Is this just a word game God is playing with Cain? Or is Cain actually able to rule over it?

    blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/09/2008 12:38 PM  

  • Hi Alvin,
    You know you and see it this quite similarly.

    How else would man and angels really be able to love God unless God was willing to take that chance.

    This kind of a thought was what made the whole story of redemption make any sense to me in the first place - 21 years ago when I was saved.

    The verse you put there is a fine example for us to ponder. Maybe I will post it on the UoG blog for discussion in a few days. Good question.

    God bless.

    (Colin Maxwell is a great guy from what I can tell. He seems very kind, and respectful as can be. I want us to be respectful of him.)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/09/2008 2:24 PM  

  • Rose. I agree!

    alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/09/2008 2:48 PM  

  • Random musings.....

    Doesn't it seem when certain points are made that seem impossible to counter-point...there is dead silence?

    Being challenging! Being charitable! & Being nice! :)

    By Blogger Kris, at 1/09/2008 11:21 PM  

  • Hi Rose/Kris
    I'm real nice when I'm quite!

    blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/10/2008 1:03 PM  

  • Hi Rose/Kris
    I also can't seem to be able to spell when I'm being nice. Quiet

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/10/2008 1:08 PM  

  • Hi Rose
    I've been thinking about this quite a bit, and I feel I'm just to angry over the subject of Calvinism. I just got to much baggage to bring to the debate. Between my wife being told she probaly wasn't one of the elect and ending up in a mental ward. To a pastor coming to our church and trying out for the position. And his first sermon he said this: "It's unbiblical to tell people God loves them for in fact His plan for them might be the eternal lake of fire so you would be lying to them."
    The problem I have is I see right through all this Calvinism even the Calvinism that Colin proclaims. I appologize for my lack of control. I will leave this debate to nice people. Which I believe Rose and Colin are without a doubt.

    blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/10/2008 2:34 PM  

  • [Also George Bryson talks about R.C. Sproul Jr. book "Almighty Over All" Which shows God to be the Monster. Bryson call's it the 6th point of Calvinism, the dark side.]
    Hello Alvin,
    There are some from supralapsarian camp who say things that make me shudder too. RC Jr is one of those people! He also has some serious theological problems which I will not go into. He has a history of controversy. He was rejected by the largest denomination, the PCA, which he tried to join because of his controversial views. So RC Jr's views are not in line with mainstream Calvinism. For someone to use him as an example of what most Calvinists believe is dishonest. Dave Hunt quoted his views and did not make it clear those were Jr's words not his fathers. His father's teachings are in accordance with the WCF teachings.


    The Westminster Confession represents true Calvinism which I believe also accurately represents what the Bible teaches. There is an extreme camp in Calvinism which take the Sovereignty of God too far in my opinion. The WCF and other major reformed doctrines plainly teach that God is not the author of sin.

    Any similarity between the Koran and the teachings of Scripture only shows that even false religions have some truth mixed in, even though it is a corrupted version.

    By Anonymous VA ~Susan, at 1/10/2008 2:41 PM  

  • Alvin,
    That does make me shudder. I can certainly understand why you feel angry over it. I would probably be more angry if I had some of those experiences you mention. Geesh. Yes.

    (everyone doesn't think I am so nice)

    Hi Susan,
    Thanks for the comment. I replied to your kind email the other day. Did you get my reply? Sometimes my ISP gets blocked so let me know if you did not get it and I will send it from my work account.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/10/2008 2:46 PM  

  • and Alvin,
    You are always welcome here - even to vent your frustration over whatever we are talking about. I did not mean to censor you in any way. :~)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 1/10/2008 2:47 PM  

  • Hi Rose/Susan

    Thank you Rose for the open invite!

    Susan, one thing I will say for R.C. Sproul Sr. is that he's honest! I heard him with my own ears say "he didn't know if he was saved or not." This of course is because of the "perseverance of the saints" you can't know until the end of your life or the rapture.
    blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/10/2008 4:40 PM  

  • [Thanks for the comment. I replied to your kind email the other day. Did you get my reply? Sometimes my ISP gets blocked so let me know if you did not get it and I will send it from my work account.]

    Hi Rose,
    I'm sorry to say that I didn't get an email from you. I'm glad you got mine OK though. Could you send it again?
    Thanks.

    ~Susan

    By Anonymous VA ~Susan, at 1/10/2008 7:15 PM  

  • [Susan, one thing I will say for R.C. Sproul Sr. is that he's honest! I heard him with my own ears say "he didn't know if he was saved or not." This of course is because of the "perseverance of the saints" you can't know until the end of your life or the rapture.]

    Alvin,
    I can't speak for his honesty, but I can say that I don't know any Calvinists that doubt their salvation, at least none have every told me so. What you heard "with your own ears" from one Calvinist does not make it the rule for all Calvinists. You are also assuming that RC SR's doubt is directly related to his Calvinism which you cannot prove. He was an Arminian for many years before becoming a Calvinist. How do you know he didn't have those same doubts about his salvation before becoming a Calvinist?

    You'd need to poll a lot of Calvinists to test the validity of your theory before arriving at such a conclusion. It's called making a hasty generlization when you come to a conclusion with too little evidence.

    I'm sure there are some doubting Calvinists out there along with Christians of other persuasions. There is very much in those doctrines that is a great comfort.
    Doubting is a problem for certain Christians who have over sensitive temperaments. I'm sure the devil takes full advantage of their weakness. I would think those who are taught that you can lose your salvation would have much greater problems with assurance.

    People who have made false professions of faith should doubt their salvation so they can come to Christ truly. It happens sometimes with children raised in Christian families like my Grandmother. She attended church her whole life and she assumed that she was a Christian, but after hearing a very convicting sermon, the Holy Spirit showed her that she was never saved and she came to Christ for salvation. She was no Calvinist either. Thank God that her pastor preached the truth to her and God used it to show her her lost condition.
    ~Susan

    By Anonymous VA ~Susan, at 1/10/2008 8:12 PM  

  • Hi Rose/Susan

    You are also assuming that RC SR's doubt is directly related to his Calvinism which you cannot prove.

    Sproul said: "A while back, I had one of those moments of accute self-awareness, and suddenly, the question hit me, "R.C. what if your not one of the REDEEMED?" My sins came pouring into my mind, and the more I looked at myself, the worse I felt. I thought, maybe it's really true. Maybe I'm not saved after all."
    R.C. Sproul Sr. made this comment on a DVD our church watched.
    No Christian can be sure that he is a true believer, Hense, there is an ongoing need to be dedicated to the Lord and to deny ourselves so that we might make it. Quote John Piper

    blessings alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/10/2008 9:40 PM  

  • [No Christian can be sure that he is a true believer, Hense, there is an ongoing need to be dedicated to the Lord and to deny ourselves so that we might make it. Quote John Piper]
    Alvin,
    I disagree with John Piper if those are his actual words. Could you give me the reference the quote was taken from so I can check out the context? I've read enough of these "lifted quotes" to not trust them for a minute without reading the context from the source. I googled the words and could only find them on anti-Calvinst sites which right away makes me suspicious.

    I also disagree with your "proof" that the RC quote proves that Calvinism leads to doubting ones salvation. Those doubts could easily be those of ANY Christian. Like the other quote I could only find it on an anti-Calvinist sites.
    Wilkins had it on his site and I can see clearly what hatred he has for his fellow believers who are Calvinists. The saddest thing is that this is one of the teachers FGers are following so loyally.

    The quote was attributed to Tabletalk Magazine. What was the name of the DVD you heard with the same quote? I thought it was odd that the DVD had the same quote as the article unless the article was done after the taped video version. Wilkins said it was from Tabletalk Magazine Nov 6, 1989 (p. 20).

    The only thing it proves to me is that RC Sproul had a struggle with doubts over 18 years ago, not that he currently lives in a state of doubting his salvation because he is a Calvinist.
    Here's more of the Tabletalk quote by RC Sproul Sr. that was on Wilkins' site.
    ------------------------
    There are people in this world who are not saved, but who are convinced that they are. The presence of such people causes genuine Christians to doubt their salvation. After all, we wonder, suppose I am in that category? Suppose I am mistaken about my salvation and am really going to hell? How can I know that I am a real Christian?

    A while back I had one of those moments of acute self-awareness that we have from time to time, and suddenly the question hit me: "R.C., what if you are not one of the redeemed? What if your destiny is not heaven after all, but hell?" Let me tell you that I was flooded in my body with a chill that went from my head to the bottom of my spine. I was terrified.

    I tried to grab hold of myself. I thought, "Well, it's a good sign that I'm worried about this. Only true Christians really care about salvation." But then I began to take stock of my life, and I looked at my performance. My sins came pouring into my mind, and the more I looked at myself, the worse I felt. I thought, "Maybe it's really true. Maybe I'm not saved after all."

    I went to my room and began to read the Bible. On my knees I said, "Well, here I am. I can't point to my obedience. There's nothing I can offer. I can only rely on Your atonement for my sins. I can only throw myself on Your mercy." Even then I knew that some people only flee to the Cross to escape hell, not out of a real turning to God. I could not be sure about my own heart and motivation. Then I remembered John 6:68. Jesus had been giving out hard teaching, and many of His former followers had left Him. When He asked Peter if he was also going to leave, Peter said, "Where else can I go? Only You have the words of eternal life." In other words, Peter was also uncomfortable, but he realized that being uncomfortable with Jesus was better than any other option!
    --------------------------
    After being assailed with those doubts, he did what any Christian would do and sought the Lord's help and deliverance from his doubts. I do believe, help my unbelief.

    Wilkins comes to an unwarranted conclusion when he says:
    "According to this way of thinking, certainty is not an option. The very best option available is "being uncomfortable with Jesus."

    I disagree strongly with his unfair conclusion. The very best option is knowing that you are accepted in the Beloved which every true Christian can know and that no one can take you out of His omnipotent hand.

    ~Susan

    By Blogger VA ~Susan, at 1/11/2008 4:59 PM  

  • [He was rejected by the largest denomination, the PCA, which he tried to join because of his controversial views.]

    I just re-read this. I should have said the largest conservative Presbyterian denom.

    By Blogger VA ~Susan, at 1/12/2008 6:54 PM  

  • Hi Rose

    Hi Susan, you said:
    The very best option is knowing that you are accepted in the Beloved which every true Christian can know and that no one can take you out of His omnipotent hand.

    Assurance is part of God's Offer!

    A carful consideration of the offer of salvation, as Jesus Himself presented it, will show that assurance is part of that offer. One forceful example of this is John 5:24,

    Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

    Anyone who takes this statement at face value should be able to say, "I know I have everlasting life. I know I will not come into judgment."
    But if assurance arises from a simple promise like this, it has nothing to do with works. It calls only for faith. Moreover, the guarantee which He makes is relevent to the very moment of faith. "He who hears...believes...has.." On the authority of Jesus, the believer can know he has eternal life at the very moment he believes God for it.
    The importance of this cannot be stressed too much. Assurance does not await the day of our death. It does not await the day when we stand before God in judgment. For in John 5:24 it is declared that, for the believer, there is no judgment. That is, there is no final assessment by which his eternal destiny hangs in the balance. Already he has passed out of the sphere of spirtual death and into the realm of spiritual life.
    It is precisely such a verse that confronts those who insist on works with an insoluble problem. If works are a co-condition with faith for eternal life, the Lord's failure to say so cannot be explained. But if works are a necessary outcome of saving faith, the problem is equally great. For in that case, one of two propositions must be true: (1) the believer also knows at the moment of faith that he will persevere in good works, or (2) the believer does not know whether he has in fact truly believed.
    Neither propostion can be defended successfully.
    (1) Does A Believer Know In Adavance He will Persevere?
    Not many would wish to maintain the first propostion. Although some believe the Bible teaches that a true Christian will persevere in good works, few believe that when a man trusts Christ he can know in advance that he will persevere in those works. The countless warnings of the New Testament against failures of every kind ought to be sufficient to show that such a guarantee is not Biblical. When Paul wrote to the Christians at Rome, he used these words:
    For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live (Rom 8:13).
    In original Greek, the form of the conditional statements in both parts of the verse is exactly the same. The level of probability is the same for both. That two possibilities are placed before the readers is as clear as words can make this.
    In reference to himself, as well, the Apostle recongnized the possibility of tragic failure. In 1 Corinthians 9:27 he writes:
    But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
    In face of a verse like this, it is impossible to maintain that Paul possessed a certainty about even his own spiritual victory. Obviously, this great servant of Christ took the spiritual dangers he faced as grim realities. He was motivated by these dangers to take care that he did not run a losing race.
    In neither of the passages just mentioned is there any reason to find a threat to the believer's eternal security. A Christian who lives after the flesh is certainly in danger of death, but he is not in danger of hell. And to be disqualified in the Christian racem about which Paul is speaking in 1 Cor 9:24-27, is not the same as losing eternal life. It is sufficient to note that an unqualified certainty about victory in Christian experince does not exist. The New Testament cannot correctly be said to offer a certainty like this.
    (2) Does A Believer Not Know Whether He Believes?
    It is not surprising that most of those who hold that works must verify faith adopt the second alternative. This is not always done explicitly, but it remains the only other option.
    IF A BELIEVER CANNOT BE CERTAIN AT THE TIME OF CONVERSION THAT HE WILL LIVE EFFECTIVELY FOR CHRIST, ON THE PREMISE THAT HE WILL DO SO IF HE IS SAVED, IT FOLLOWS THAT HE CANNOT KNOW AT THE TIME OF CONVERSION THAT HE IS TRULY SAVED. AND SINCE ETERNAL LIFE IS OFFERED TO FAITH ALONE, THEN IT ALSO FOLLOWS THAT HE CANNOT KNOW WHETHER HE HAS TRULY BELIEVED.
    This view of things involves a psychological absurdity. At the level of everyday experience, if a man is asked whether he believes a certain fact or trusts a certain person, he can always give a definite answer. Even an answer like, "I'm not sure I trust that man," reflects a definite psychological state. What it reflects is an attitude of distrust toward the individual in question.
    On the other hand, when someone says, "I trust that person," he is expressing a state of mind of which he himself is thoroughly aware.
    To claim that a man may trust Christ without knowing whether or not he has trusted Christ, is to articulate an absurd idea. Of course a man can know whether he believes in the offer of salvation or not!
    The Bible everywhere takes this fact for granted. When the Philippian jailor enquired of Paul and Silas, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" (Acts 16:30), their answer clearly offered him certainty. The words, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household' " (16:31), invite a specific, identifiable response of heart. Having made it, the jailer could know he was saved. That he did know this is clear from verse 34: "And he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household."
    The seriousness of this issue must not be passed over. An insistance on the necessity or inevitability of perseverance in good works undermines assurance and postpones it, logically, until death. But this denial of assurance clashes directly with the clear intent of the Gospel proclamation. It flies in the face of the offer of eternal life made by the Son of God Himself.
    Zane Hodges (emphasis mine)

    take it freely alvin

    By Blogger alvin, at 1/12/2008 11:30 PM  

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