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Monday, December 19, 2005

An AWARD to Erlenmeyer Flask!



OK, I realize that in the world of blog, I am no one important ... but I have created an award that I want to give. I first heard of the concept of an award from Marc Heinrich of Purgatorio. I am not the instant blog star that Marc is, but hey, I have opinions about the people that I read! Let me explain ...

Antonio. He is quite controversial. I first heard of Antonio, when I was reading a post about Antonio by Jonathan Moorhead on his blog From the Head of the Moor. I went to Antonio's blog, and, being a questioner of Calvinism myself, I left him this comment:

Antonio, I am sorry that people are bashing you. It seems like you are just a person who won't go along with a doctrine that is not painting the Bible's picture of our wonderful, merciful God ...

I thought it was kind of "mean" the way that he was being treated. I since have discovered that he brings it on himself, to a degree. I actually think he enjoys it. He appears on people's posts, (like this one) and leaves quotes from John Calvin and Lordship Salvation proponents that, I believe, are meant to cause the bloggers to think about some of the implications of their theology. I really like Antonio and God has used him in my life and my husband's life in a very real way, but he is belligerent sometimes, I must admit. I just yesterday read where he was accused of being a trouble maker. His ways are not the ways I would go about challenging people. Although, all of us can be pretty passionate about our beliefs. However, even his critics would have to admit, he does make the blogosphere interesting. I have learned a lot from reading his blog and the comments also. I have learned a lot reading all the blogs around here. Thank you all!

I digress ...

Antonio's blog, Free Grace Theology is a place that I have been frequenting. If you just read his own blog (and not the provacative comments he leaves all over blogdom), he doesn't come across rude or like a "troublemaker" at all. He has been accused of heresy, but I just don't see it in his posts. He has been doing a series on James, in which he is just taking apart the verses, talking about the intended audience etc ... There is not a whole lot of opining ... it is very sytematic. His inspiration, however, seems to spring from a concern over mixing grace with works in the salvation equation. I have this concern also. I have always thought that the reformed theology had the concern, as well. However, reformed theology bloggers are mad at Antonio for his challenges! They call him a heretic and it has turned into a very interesting debate. I've been scratching my head and have been very troubled over it all.

Now enter Erlenmeyer Flask (not his real name). Earl is certainly a reformed theology proponent. He has joined in many of my discussions about TULIP and has been very helpful. He really appreciates the Westminster Confession of Faith and mentions it often. He is quite funny. I first "met" him when he left a comment on my 4th or 5th post as a blogger, back in September, called "Debating Calvinism ... should I read this book?" He said I had a "fun blog." That, in itself, made me smile. What an unexpected place to find a comment that my blog was fun.

In my sidebar, there is a post called TULIP SERIES ... My Favorite Comments, where his humor can be seen. I included his comments that made me laugh and smile, although he is so much more than a comedian. Right now, on his blog MetaSchema, he is going through the Westminster Larger Catechism and ADVENT. He is very serious about his faith, well spoken and articulate. But this is not why he is getting an "AWARD" from me. This is why:

I was visiting Antonio's blog and I saw that Earl had been reading it. I was looking at Earl's comments here. Then ... I saw something that made my blog heart swell. Earl recognized Antonio with respect. He said a lot, but here is a bit of it:

Antonio,
I've been reading your blog and associated comments for a couple of hours ... I have a better understanding now ... I really appreciate your stance on free grace. Keep it up. I'm still gathering information on your approach, there are aspects that I can't go along with as I understand your approach better, but I think you are providing a good service for the Kingdom of God.

Hallelujah! Wouldn't it be beautiful if all of us (myself also!) could recognize that others in the body of Christ who challenge our thinking, and our systems, are not our enemies. (I would that the challengers would be kinder about it also.) I once appeared on a blog last summer and was pretty confrontational myself, but I found that talking with a person who holds a position I don't agree with is good for the soul and it causes me to look deeper into the Word. More importantly, these are ones for whom Christ died! The body of Christ is diverse, but we are all brothers and sisters. Let's be more respectful.

Earl, thank you for blessing my heart this last week! You are so REASONABLE!

(I will give this award from time to time, when I am impressed to do so. I will start a list in my sidebar with those who recieve the award listed underneath, just like Marc! I have to figure out how to put a graphic in my sidebar first, though ... does anyone know how?)

the END!

43 Comments:

  • Rose,

    Thank you, but I am so undeserving of this.

    You and your husband are a blessing to me and us all. Thank you for your work in the Kingdom of God!

    By Blogger Earl, at 12/19/2005 10:57 AM  

  • Earl,
    I think you are! Bless you for your heart.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/19/2005 1:02 PM  

  • Yes, Earl is definitely one of the most reasonable bloggers out there. He never rises to the argument, but presents his views respectfully and acknowledges strengths in the positions of others of different persuasion.

    I think we can all learn a lot from Earl's tact and graciousness.

    I am very glad you have recognised the quality of Earl's blogging, Rose~

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 12/19/2005 1:39 PM  

  • Rats, now I am going to have to behave. You've all raised the bar on what is expected of me. :o)

    By Blogger Earl, at 12/19/2005 2:24 PM  

  • First of all, you are someone important. You are my favorite theological blogger.

    Secondly, Antonio is consistantly the most intentionally abrasive commenter (are there two "Ts?")in the Christian blogosphere. Yet he always has a great "hidden" agenda.

    Thirdly, you have awarded appropriately.

    Fourthly, I think you should be the next recipient.

    By Blogger Joe, at 12/19/2005 3:43 PM  

  • Hi Rose,
    My Husband posts on your site and has a link so I thought I would visit your blog.

    I like your last post. We as christians often pick things to debate and at times go to war over.

    I think it is great to see people talking and debating theology. So often in the church today we just want to make everyone "happy" in fact whole church services are built to make unbelievers feel comfortable. Anyway I don't wont to get comfortable in my faith I always want to grow and be challanged I think that's what impresses me the most.

    John Piper was in a recent radio broadcast was talking about how in the early church leaders would gather for hours to debate theology. How awesome that today we can debate. I know my husband blogs to learn and grow.

    Anyway just wanted to say hi. Keep reading and growing.

    By Blogger Jessica Jo L, at 12/19/2005 6:05 PM  

  • Rose,
    Once again you have blessed the Body of Christ. You have great courage and no doubt you have begun a healing process in the Body. I know that alot of those quotes came from me,but, I commend you anyways. You are a blessing.

    I look up to you and respect you even though I was the one who messed up. Thanks for the rod of correction.

    Your chastened brother,
    Mark

    By Blogger bluecollar, at 12/19/2005 6:09 PM  

  • Rose,

    I have my light and loving times as well my more agressive times. I know that you wrote that. But it isn't always bad to be a bit forward and frank.

    Didn't Paul at times?

    Gal 2:11
    Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed;

    Titus 1:10-11, 13
    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not... Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith

    There is a time for passivity and a time for aggressiveness.

    The stakes are high:

    Acts 20:30-31
    Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.

    Gal 1:6-9

    I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

    Antonio

    By Blogger Antonio, at 12/19/2005 6:54 PM  

  • Here I just went, talking about myself. What a shame!

    I do want to recognize Earl, as I believe that he and I will turn out to be good friends.

    Most people answer a matter before they hear it. Many rail against Zane Hodges and Free Grace theology who do not really know what it represents, teaches, or believes.

    I am glad for people like Earl who have an open mind and a deliberate manner, seeking to get to the bottom of a matter.

    Rose, I think it is wonderful that you have instituted this award.

    Earl is much deserving of it.

    Antonio

    By Blogger Antonio, at 12/19/2005 6:58 PM  

  • Rose,
    Are you going to give out an "Unreasonable Pighead" award as well? That might be just as loving and helpful to the body... if done in the right spirit, of course.

    By Blogger marc, at 12/19/2005 8:25 PM  

  • Rose, this is truly wonderful. Congratulations Earl.

    By Blogger Kc, at 12/19/2005 8:29 PM  

  • Hi Rose,

    Excellent choice in choosing Earl! I think he is a prime example of how Christians, in spite of their arguing and squabbling about doctrine, actually happen to agree on more than 99% of things :o)

    By Blogger Cleopas, at 12/19/2005 9:36 PM  

  • Rose!

    I've never seen Antonio be belligerent!!

    Isn't that too strong a word, Rose, come on?

    I think Antonio may get exasperated... with what seems like the lack of much substantive interaction with his methodical arguments. Iron sharpens iron! Sparing is healthy for our doctrine!

    Besides Reformed guys seem to dish it out pretty well! Have you noticed?! So what's the prob?

    Maybe you should have an Ann Coulter award, so I can nominate him...

    Totally offended!!

    Jodie

    By Blogger H K Flynn, at 12/19/2005 9:38 PM  

  • Dyspraxic Fundamentalist (Matthew),
    It is because of Earl that I "met" you! So I am doubly thankful because I think you are a great blog-friend. :~)

    Joe,
    You are way too kind. Thank you. I'm a little slow, though, what do you mean here:
    (are there two "Ts?")
    You're nice.

    Jessica Jo,
    Thank you for stopping by! That is interesting about the early church fathers debating. I did not know that. I guess they would have needed to hammer some things out, eh?

    Bluecollar,
    Don't think that I was trying to hot seat you. Only one quote (?)came from you anyways. I just wish you and Antonio could somehow be peaceful with eachother. If you feel chastened, it wasn't intentional. :~)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/19/2005 10:05 PM  

  • Antonio,
    You are very passionate and my husband and I love that about you! I don't know how you sustain the "in your face" thing. That would wear me out.

    you said:
    I am glad for people like Earl who have an open mind and a deliberate manner, seeking to get to the bottom of a matter.

    AMEN and AMEN!

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/19/2005 10:08 PM  

  • marc,
    Hi! Good to see you here. The list would be too long if I made such an award! ;~)

    kc,
    You are an encourager. Thanks for reading. (from a fellow nobody!)

    Cleopas,
    You have been on my mind for days. There is a man on Christian radio - his voice is what I hear when I read your comments and posts. That is a compliment because I like the man. He is very soothing, calm and kind. Even when you challenged me a few posts ago, you were such. :~)

    You make a good point about the 99%

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/19/2005 10:14 PM  

  • HK,
    Can't you see by reading this post that I appreciate your free grace friend?

    I really like Antonio and God has used him in my life and my husband's life in a very real way, but he is belligerent sometimes, I must admit.

    The word belligerent was actually used by one of his other friends and so I borrowed it. Maybe I mean "in your face." I don't know. But I think Antonio recognizes that he is sometimes a little "controversial"? Don't be offended. I am sure he appreciates the free publicity. Besides, if you want to see what I mean, click here. That is just one example.

    Don't be offended. I don't think Antonio is.

    Are you Antonio?

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/19/2005 10:19 PM  

  • I was kidding actually with the ann Coulter comment and the totally offended 'salutation', I've got to work on not letting jokes fall flat... ;\

    I'll look at you link, but I think 'contoversial' is a good thing on crucial topics like the Gospel, as you have said yourself, in so many words.

    Hey Reformed folks, for a Christmas treat go to Antonio's blog! And respond to his James series! :> ;D B)

    less grumpy,

    jodie

    By Blogger H K Flynn, at 12/19/2005 10:51 PM  

  • Bluecollar!!!
    BTW, thanks for your kind words to me, blogger buddy!

    I look up to you and respect you ...

    That is way too nice, but thank you!

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/20/2005 12:13 AM  

  • Jodie,
    These symbols work really well for that ;

    :~) ;~) ;-) ;0

    I rely heavily on those keys. I thought maybe you were kiddin, but I couldn't tell. ;~)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/20/2005 12:17 AM  

  • Rose~ thanks for that.

    Brethren in Christ, I think it is a real shame that people are using this post celebrating reasonableness and humility to make attacks on Antonio. I think it is really unpleasent.

    Antonio's tone can be confrontational, but mine has been some times. Have you never felt strongly about something and got worked up about it? I am sure you have.

    Please have the decency to accept Antonio's sincerity and stop rising to the challenge. That is a far better way to deal with over-assertiveness.

    I hope you do not mind my saying this, Rose.

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 12/20/2005 5:06 AM  

  • Hi Rose

    'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' "This is the great and foremost commandment. "And a second is like it, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets." (Jesus as quoted by
    Matthew 22:37-40)

    There is going to be alot of loving in heaven, because He is Love.He wants us to start now. The only gift that I really cherish is love.

    "Father forgive them for they know not what they do."

    Earl
    May His love Consume you and may the pinnacle of your life melt heart with His love.

    Antonio
    You have alot of passion and you quote alot, but you forgot this one:
    Proverbs 15:
    " 1. A soft answer turns away wrath,
    But a harsh word stirs up anger.

    I love you all so deeply. May the Love of Christ transform and His heart melt you.

    I give you all my Award " Love "

    Thank you Rose for Your Love
    Love you Sis

    By Blogger forgiven, at 12/20/2005 9:22 AM  

  • Hi Rose,

    I commend you on giving your award to Earl. It is a good thing that you have chosen this.

    I would ask you to consider that the words pig-headed be removed from the rhetoric as that possibaly may have the same hurtful tone that caused you to change your profile picture. But perhaps I am being to sensitive now.

    By Blogger Bhedr, at 12/20/2005 4:45 PM  

  • forgiven,
    Thanks for your contribution. Your words are good.

    Brian,
    Yes, I see what you mean. My award says what the person "is not." That, in itself, is negative to a degree.

    My avatar - that is an appearance thing. The word "pig-headed" is not about the appearance of one's head. It is about an attitude where one will not give ear to others. I wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular as a contrast for Earl. I really mean to say that he is not closed-minded and ungenerous to those who may disagee with his theological construct. He doesn't jump on the bandwagon of condemnation. (But that is all very verbose, so I just chose the phrase "not pig-headed").

    I wasn't thinking of you at all! You explained yourself and I understand. :~)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/20/2005 5:08 PM  

  • Bluecollar!!

    I was thinking about this. I never got to see the "private emails" that you deleted. Were you "not kind" in these? I just assumed it was emails that were civil. Maybe they were not and that is why you felt "chastened." But, you see, I didn't even ever see those emails, so I guess that "correction" is coming from your own conscience or even higher up. Isn't it neat how the Lord does that?

    ALl of us should learn from EARL how to behave with one another. That is why I made up this "award."

    Bless you Bluecollar. Embrace the "enemy" who is not an "enemy."

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/20/2005 5:13 PM  

  • Thanks for explaining. I was borderline retarded when coming out of High School being a D and F student and only the Marines would take me and then only the Grunts. My GT score(MILITARY IQ) was extremely low as I had a learning disability growing up. I was happy to learn 5 years later while taking Psych 101 that my axioms and dendrites just didn't fire like everyone else and I had slow reflexes of the cuff yet my long term memory seemed to hold up and access to those files have helped. IOW Space Case. For some reason though my mind opened up while in the Marines. Perhaps I am a little sensitive that way. I've been called stupid more than once. It doesn't help that I'm from West Virginia either.

    By Blogger Bhedr, at 12/20/2005 8:28 PM  

  • bhedr,

    It doesn't help that I'm from West Virginia either.

    LOL

    By Blogger Antonio, at 12/20/2005 10:08 PM  

  • Bhedr,
    I never would have guessed any of that about you. You seem very deep and intellectual. I like you! (I especially like some of your funny, poetical ways of saying things.) Please come back anytime, even though you're from WV. :~)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/20/2005 10:13 PM  

  • Oh the non-stop West Virginia jokes and no Mom and Dad are not inter-related.

    Antonio, your from WV? That's an Italian name isn't it?

    Dad is from the Charleston area while mom is from Bluefield and that is where I was born. They both met at Bob Jones University.

    Folks from Bluefield have always been up townsy and living in denial. Dad was a hick from snuff dipping Snuffy Smith and Barney Goggleville.

    Mom used to be embarrased with his twangy accent while at the same time boasted on his looks. She didn't like for him to speak until she had him properly trained him.

    By the time we got back from Hong Kong neither one of them sounded right and I guess I was clueless about everything in between. My brother went on to be a concert pianist while I fell off the turnup or maybe I should say Tulip truck and joined the Jarheads. Twas foreordainded and predistined to happen. All of it.

    By Blogger Bhedr, at 12/20/2005 11:09 PM  

  • Rose,

    I have something to consider.

    Alot of what is going on with this stuff it mostly the change of communication to the internet for Christians. It's a very emotionaless place in many ways.

    Think of the fact that you can't tell what I'm thinking in my writing so people can assume many things in my writing because I write something short, but really there are many thoughts running around I couldn't write up to you all in a short sentence.

    For example I could be writing a statement of belief in a very passionate and loving way or unpassionate way in my letter writing and you wouldn't have any verbal queues or visual reflects in my face to tell what is going on. Sometimes in people's writings you can't tell they have a heart behind them because they don't overemphasis what they are thinking.

    People easily get offended on the internet but remember to stand for the truth in love. How does one do that on the internet? Hard because you have to overemphasis a point you could easily see in my face in a one on one conversation.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with standing for something and saying that something is in error.

    There is always a desire in a christian for truth and love in the body of Christ.

    We all need prayer to consider what to do in each instance. How does one care about truth and love in the Body of Christ the same amount and the same value? For example, what if Luther did nothing or others did nothing that have greatly influenced our faith. Consider if our kindness wasn't evident to all would God use our work to lead people to repentence.

    May God give us guidance.

    By Blogger Shawn L, at 12/21/2005 12:34 AM  

  • Hi Rose,
    what a great idea! You are such a blessing to me.

    In Christ,
    brother John

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 12/21/2005 12:06 PM  

  • Shawn,
    you say: I don't think there is anything wrong with standing for something and saying that something is in error.

    I obviously agree with you.

    We don't have to be caddy about it, though, and join in finger pointing, ganging up on, making fun of, childish nastiness. This is all I am saying here. That can be clearly felt in the blogosphere, don't you think?

    Hi John!

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/21/2005 12:12 PM  

  • Rose,
    Thanks again for the award.

    Shawn has a good point. We live in a time where the style of communication has changed. If anyone has had the chance to read what people wrote in the past, it can be quite eye opening. Martin Luther, as an example, writes in a very scathing satire to Erasmus in the book, Bondage of the Will. Luther is both caustic and very, very halarious.

    Luther's style today would be frowned upon.

    The thing that I struggle with also is the duel goals of maintaining both the peace and purity of the Church. That is a very tall order, but Christ commands us to do both. At times, purity will necessitate breaking the peace. At other times, peace needs to be extended at some appearent compromise on purity. I don't know how to do this. How it is done in a local church is different in the blogisphere. I need people like you, Shawn, to help me on this.

    Then there is the issue when I encourage someone in one area of discussion there is also the danger that others think I am giving a blanket endorsement of all their beliefs. The challange is the hear each other and recognize when truth is spoken, and acknowledge it, even from those we consider those people from la la land.

    Those of you who watched the Luther movie might remember Luther talking about how God spoke through Balaam's ass, and that God might consider Luther in the same category as Luther speaks. There is an element of truth we all need to consider. I too am Balaam's ass, often I speak nonsense, but sometimes God does speak through me. If we can have the ears to hear when God speaks through others we consider, well, ahh, as Balaam's ass, we might hear some truth we need to heed.

    God works providentially through all sorts of people, even people outside of the faith, even working the evil of Satan into good. If God can do that, how much more is God doing with people who in some way are trying to serve Him.

    Finally, even though we may acknowledge what someone says is true and helpful, that does not mean we give a blanket endorsement of that person. Heaven knows Rose and Wendell don't give a blanket endorsement of me. Even more importantly, neither does God, except in His covering of my sin and giving me His Son's righteousness.

    By Blogger Earl, at 12/21/2005 1:48 PM  

  • Thank you for these words, Earl. They are further evidence of your great character ... I mean totally depraved nature, with the grace from God that has given you a measure of wise civility. ;~)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/21/2005 2:19 PM  

  • Right on Earl...

    By Blogger Shawn L, at 12/21/2005 3:47 PM  

  • Thanks Earl and Shawn for your compassion. No doubt i can almost literally say, "I am Balaam's Ass!"

    I guess one way of explaining my near retardedness with what happened is strangely...well have you ever seen that movie Phenomenon with John Travolta? This may sound stupid but in a lot of ways I feel kinda like that guy. I have all these thoughts now that I don't know how to articulate and the more I do the more I push others away. So maybe I need to shut-up but then I get this unction and ahhh well...who knows?

    His word is now a fire shut up in my bones!

    Thanks Shawn for understanding that I don't resent people or have malice in my heart toward them.

    By Blogger Bhedr, at 12/21/2005 4:08 PM  

  • Hi Rose and thanks for the stimulating discussion.

    I like to think that the flow of communication between people in the blogisphere all boils down to basic converstional common sense. A model for which I cannot think of. A conversation between two people who are equally able to slam dunk each other will simply become only a gratifying spectacle to the flesh according to how your own guy is doing. I think the example of Luther's style in his exchange with Erasmus is only a mediocre example of different styles. Because Luther wrote a book, explaining himself fully in the process, dealing with the most important matters of eternal life and death. And I have to think that his tone and style reflected the fact that he was in hiding from the predominent mainstream church style of the times which was to burn your theological opponents alive. I see your point Earl, but I think what sets the tone today is primarily area of mainstream debate talk radio and talk tv where rhetoric is all that matters. That's the only model most of us have and it has killed honest dialogue because we go right to slam dunking each other. Nothing is ever allowed to be followed through to the end thoroughly where, then, it could end in a condition of greater understanding even though perhaps still one of mutual and respectful disagreement. There is no authority or absolute truth in the political or scientific world, yet, in the Christian blogishpere, everything is different, we have one Truth revealed to us which we are trying to learn to it's fullest. I'm not saying anything that anybody reading here doesn't already know, I just wanted to emphasize it's interplay. I think the use of the popular media style in the blogisphere (except the politically contentious blogs) will compromise any enjoyment and value of debating scripture. And I am a political partisan all the way (although my interests have shifted and continue to shift to more eternal and worthwhile things). And Earl I don't disagree with you one bit, however, I don't like way you seemed to open the door with that remark for the modern day Christian blogger to go about their debating as though they were a modern day Luther, except in matters of life and death of course. I just think you only explained your minor point there half way with the use of Luther thing. But that's not bad Earl. Just wanted to get my two cents in there. I guess Paul and the rest of them spent a lot of time talking about and dealing with problems and potential problems inside the church, so I guess that's why I find myself "talking about", talking about scripture, because I'm still trying to figure that one out. But I enjoy talking about scripture, can you tell? So bare with me.

    Enjoying the gift of the Truth with you all. Todd

    By Blogger Todd, at 12/22/2005 11:07 AM  

  • Todd,

    That was an excellent criticism of my point on Luther and its possible use in the blogisphere. I will incorporate your thoughts into my thinking. Thanks.

    By Blogger Earl, at 12/22/2005 2:04 PM  

  • "I'm a little slow, though, what do you mean here:
    (are there two "Ts?")"

    Just means I don't know how to spell and am too lazy to look it up.

    By Blogger Joe, at 12/22/2005 8:07 PM  

  • Todd,
    Thank you for your thoughts. I think you are right about people shutting one another down. It is not a good thing. By the way, did you notice I put one of your quotes in my sidebar? Thanks!

    Joe,
    See, I thought there was some deeper, hidden meaning! Go figure!

    By Blogger Rose~, at 12/22/2005 10:07 PM  

  • No, thank you for the opportunity. Boy, I can really cajole my way onto a sidebar can't I(kidding, kidding!).
    Next time, Todd

    By Blogger Todd, at 12/23/2005 12:29 AM  

  • Earl writes:
    ----------
    Then there is the issue when I encourage someone in one area of discussion there is also the danger that others think I am giving a blanket endorsement of all their beliefs.
    ----------
    (Don't want to be kicked out of the fraternity!)

    and Earl writes:
    ----------
    The challange is the hear each other and recognize when truth is spoken, and acknowledge it, even from those we consider those people from la la land.
    ----------
    (We must be nice to those of that nationality, at the same time as distancing ourselves from them, far from them)

    and finally Earl writes:
    ----------
    Finally, even though we may acknowledge what someone says is true and helpful, that does not mean we give a blanket endorsement of that person.
    ----------
    (Yes, we must make sure of that)

    In light of the fact this is commentary concerning you being given a blogging award for an "acknowledgement" and "encouragement" concerning MY doctrine, you find it necessary for these caveats.

    God forbid that anyone associate you with me and my views that are from deep within "la la land".

    I don't know, am I kidding or not?

    Antonio

    By Blogger Antonio, at 12/23/2005 7:15 PM  

  • We love you Atonio and WE don't think you're from la-la land. We aren't sure what Earl thinks, but from us: keep on brother!

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 12/23/2005 7:20 PM  

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