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Monday, October 13, 2008

I Wish People Would Wake Up

We hear it said that the Republicans will lose big because of the financial problems, but it pains me to know that a lot of the blame can be laid at the feet of the Democrats. Watch this C-Span video which shows the chairman of Freddie Mac telling the Congressional Black Caucus that they are working together to help the under-able obtain loans, as though it is a good thing.

Thank you Democrats! Let's put more of 'em in office?



  • I think that if McCain loses it will be more about him and his antics of the past month than about Fannie or Freddie.

    By Blogger Kansas Bob, at 10/13/2008 9:49 AM  

  • Rose,
    Keep on keeping on. We must fight until the end.

    Kansas bob,
    Exactly what antics do you mean? I have been disappointed that he is not aggressive and speaks in favorable terms about democrats such as Al Gore who absolutely hate conservatives. Is that what you mean?

    By Blogger jazzycat, at 10/13/2008 12:02 PM  

  • Maybe antics wasn't the right word jazzy. I think that maybe behavior is a better word. McCain seems to be desperately trying to change the focus from economic issues as he tries to label Obama as a terrorist sympathizer.. and using innuendo and insinuation as he innocently asks "Who is Barack Obama?" I think that this behavior is one of the reasons that undecided voters are moving away from McCain.. but I could be wrong.

    I do wonder why people seem to be okay with McCain's advocacy of casino gambling. Also wonder why folks don't seem to care that McCain seems to live a life in DC that is seperate from his family's life in Arizona? Also wonder why so many anti-booze evangelicals don't seem to care that McCain's wealth comes from the selling of booze?

    Don't know that I care to get into a long debate on these things.. I am not an advocate for either candidate.. just think that it is easy to get in the tank for a candidate and continually make excuses for him or her.

    By Blogger Kansas Bob, at 10/13/2008 12:27 PM  

  • kansas bob,
    Do you really believe Obama or democrats would not be for casino gambling? Of course not, which makes casino gambling a non-issue. The party (democrats) of appointing judges who must affirm unlimited abortion, pushes the homosexual agenda, and is up to their eyeballs in voter fraud through ACORN certainly isn't going to give a hoot about your and my dislike for casino gambling.

    I cannot believe you do not believe the Ayers relationship is valid. Please see the post at my blog to see why it is very important. Can you imagine what would happen if a conservative Republican launched his political career in the home of an unrepentant KKK terrorist whose radical racial views were unchanged. Yet, that is what Obama did with the leftist, radical terrorist Ayers.

    I also believe that I would notice that my preacher was anti-American racist in about a week or two rather than the twenty years that Obama was in that church. As for black liberation theology: That is nothing but the liberal social gospel implemented with Marxist policies. Hmmmmm... Ayers is a Marxist and Wright preached black liberation theology.

    If that is not enough, Obama worked for ACORN and his campaign has donated money to ACORN. I didn't even mention Freddie and Fannie and the meltdown caused by democrat policies.

    These are not personal attacks they are facts that I wish McCain and Palin would bring out more. I grant you that Palin does not have much experience, but just because Obama is good at making speeches does not hide the fact that four years ago, he was a state senator. Palin has every bit as much experience as Obama and she is running as VP not president.

    By Blogger jazzycat, at 10/13/2008 2:37 PM  

  • From the Wall Street Journal:

    In works like "City Kids, City Teachers" and "Teaching the Personal and the Political," Mr. Ayers wrote that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression. His preferred alternative? "I'm a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist," Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk's, "Sixties Radicals," at about the same time Mr. Ayers was forming CAC.

    By Blogger jazzycat, at 10/13/2008 2:42 PM  

  • Thanks for the push-back jazzy.

    I don't believe that Obama actually worked for ACORN. I think that in his capacity as an attorney, he represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law.

    As I said before I really don't want to argue this one as I am not in the tank for either candidate.

    By Blogger Kansas Bob, at 10/13/2008 2:55 PM  

  • Hi Rose,

    I agree, it is frustrating that so many people (on both sides) don't seem to know or care about finding facts, they just want to blame someone quick, whoever is easiest to blame I guess. It is looking like Obama will win, and it's sad that it's likely because of one event that was, as you said, in reality the result of his kind of policies in the first place.

    Kansas Bob,

    McCain isn't my favorite Republican candidate, but as usual, it is a choice between the lesser of two evils. I may not agree with everything about McCain, in fact I wouldn't expect to. But I am so diametrically opposed to just about everything Obama/the Democrats stands for in just about every area. I see McCain as on the right track, at least more "convinceable" (probably not a word) to my particular view on an issue than Obama. If/when something comes up, I'm more confident that I have a chance of swaying McCain to my view than I do swaying Obama.

    And actually, despite the disappointment of a probable win by Obama, this is one thing I love about America. A new president doesn't automatically mean any substantial changes for the people. Each candidate may say they'll do this and that, but any promise they make requires a bill to pass both the House and the Senate, and the people get a chance to weigh in by calling/writing their senators and representatives. Whereas I see so many other countries who elect a new leader and there's rioting, burnings, murders, etc. I always wondered why that was, but I think now that this is why. No matter who the president is, the people still hold the power on each individual issue. Of course it does get complicated, but the basic principle is still there.

    Anyway, I too don't understand why people won't "wake up". My brother-in-law is an anti-Christian, agnostic Democrat and recently had a lengthy back-and-forth email exchange with my husband (his brother) about several issues. My husband presented fact after fact and even conceded a few issues, but his brother skipped right over the facts and just repeated Obama talking points. It's rather maddening at times.

    By Blogger Rachel, at 10/13/2008 3:41 PM  

  • Obama's guilt by participation:


    By Blogger jazzycat, at 10/14/2008 8:31 AM  

  • What have you judged Obama guilty of jazzy? Terrorism? Bad judgment? It would be good be specific of what you are accusing him of.

    By Blogger Kansas Bob, at 10/14/2008 9:41 AM  

  • Kansas Bob,
    It seems you do have an opinion? :~) Ask yourself if you are questioning Obama supporters? :~) (Or maybe you don't know any?)
    Do you know who you're gonna vote for.. if you don't mind my asking?

    It aint over till the gong sounds. (Tell Mark)

    I think what I am seeing with all of the Obama stories lately is an underlying thread of dishonesty - he keeps making these lame excuses to explain away these associations. I don't believe him.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 10/14/2008 10:22 AM  

  • I posted about my undecided status on my blog and linked to that post in an earlier comment here Rose.. feel free to check it out.

    By Blogger Kansas Bob, at 10/14/2008 10:34 AM  

  • Rachel,
    I haven't seen you areound in a while. I hope you are well. How is that "obedient son" and your other kids doing?

    I left you a comment about a month ago on one of my old posts where I missed a comment you left to me, but I don't think you saw it. We are playing "comment tag" of sorts, haha.

    It seems with a lot of these elections people just have their mind made up based on impression. They aren't committed for or against any particular principle, they just are inclined to go along with this guy or that guy based upon impression. I would like to see these elections be more about principles and less about personality and demagoguery.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 10/14/2008 10:49 AM  

  • Bob,
    So you are one of those voters that everyone is trying to woo? Very interesting! Did you ever see how Obama feels about "unintended births"? Seeing how he thought about that solidified my opinion that he is the wrong man to lead a country.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 10/14/2008 10:51 AM  

  • I have been following the candidates since before the primaries Rose. I know that for many abortion trumps all other issues.. after 30+ years of being manipulated by pro-life Republicans I guess I am just immune to the manipulation.

    Here is what Richard Cizik, chief lobbyist for the National Association of Evangelicals, said in an interview with Christianity Today:

    "I'm of the opinion that some people are going to vote Republican no matter what.... Party line voting in my opinion is unbiblical. It says you don't think. If you're simply voting on same sex marriage and abortion, you're not thinking. What I'm saying is that a lot of evangelical don't think, sad to say."

    Feel free to stop by my place if you'd like a non-Republican point of view :)

    By Blogger Kansas Bob, at 10/14/2008 11:03 AM  

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