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Friday, March 14, 2008


Hot off the presses!
Regular Baptist Press (the publishing arm of the GARBC, of which my church is a part) has just released the updated version of Ernest Pickering's excellent book. I have read the foreward already because I know the editor and he gave me a sneak peak. I am excited to order a copy. I think Ernest was very balanced about this. I would love to ask him what he thinks about personal attacks done while referring to his book. Alas, I cannot, as he passed away into the arms of Christ in the year 2000. He was always dignified and kind... and ever the gentleman.



  • Hi Rose,
    Wow, how exciting to have had a preview of our beloved Pastor’s Historical work. I am looking forward to reading the entire book as well.

    Blessings upon you,

    By Blogger J. Wendell, at 3/14/2008 7:12 PM  

  • John,
    Wow, you're the only comment here - when has that ever happened?

    Pickering's main thrust in separation was for the church to remain separate from organizations who held the Bible and its doctrines in shallow regard. Modernism

    I also think a lot of people would not realize by reading the title of the book that it is an historical overview of fundamentalism in the US and not just a book that teaches why Christians should separate. The title could have been slightly different to portray this, IMHO. I think more people would be interested in reading it if they knew what it really was.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/15/2008 9:17 AM  

  • Thank you Rose. It seems that there are fewer & fewer solid & sound yet sweet spirited voices like Dr. Pickering's around today. God Bless.

    By Blogger David Wyatt, at 3/16/2008 8:01 PM  

  • Thank you, David, They don't make em like they used to.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/19/2008 11:35 AM  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4/06/2008 12:11 AM  

  • Such negative and slanderous comments - to ever be considered for standing on this website - must at least be accompanied by the backbone of an identity.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 4/07/2008 10:24 AM  

  • Emmanuel Baptist and Dr. Pickering and the GARBC . . . sure, things are still the same. Nothing has changed. Your constitution says so. The RBP is still printing old works.

    That makes your churches liberalism and calvinism acceptable. . .

    Clay Nuttal writes:

    "Repetition of a Lie Does Not Make It Truth

    The good and the bad of old age is that we oldsters have been able observe dishonesty and integrity in a public laboratory. Let me begin by suggesting an area that not only is famous, but is used effectively by those in power.

    In denominations, institutions, and agencies, you will often hear the claim made that “we still have the same statement of faith we have always had”. That, of course, is not the question. If the statement is true, it has to be demonstrated. Religious groups have used this lie even while progressing from their original intent all the way up to full-blown liberalism. The statement of faith is true only if it can be demonstrated that it is truly held and supported by practice.

    Schools and churches often make this claim, while what is being taught in their pulpits and classrooms is no longer true to the foundational statement. There are several reasons, but that discussion will have to wait for another time. Repeatedly telling the same lie does not ever make it truth.

    An Example of This Progression

    On paper, the Constitution of our country is still the same as when it was written. The courtroom is a different matter; in fact, the judicial system has rewritten the Constitution. They made those changes, in most situations, without any protest being raised. There were times when opposition was mounted about some issues, but that opposition almost never altered the course of the reconstruction. Yes, on paper we do have the same Constitution, but to say that it really is still the same is a lie. All the changing was done in the very same way that religious groups redefine and add a new perspective that undermines their original intent. The idea held by liberalism is that you can’t trust history to tell you what the founders really meant. It seems that, when you consider yourself to be “supreme”, you can rewrite history and its meaning!

    In the end, all creeds and statements of faith are meaningless if those who care little for truth have violated them.

    We Have Not Changed Our Message

    One of the biggest lies being told in our circles is that “we are not changing our message, only our methods”. That is simply not possible. Ministry is always based on theology. Any change in our methods indicates a correction or redirection of theology. It is possible to adjust our methods to meet a correction of our theology. In most cases, however, the abysmal dearth of a theology that is biblical in a ministry means there is very little biblical theology there to guide them.

    The pragmatic mind would see methods as being neutral or non-moral; actually, the opposite is true. I often postulate that the two best theologians in the church should be the person in charge of music and the one in charge of youth. These two, as well as all other ministries, should be integrating biblical theology into every atom of ministry. The real question is, “How can you integrate something you do not know?” In the end, biblical authority is dismissed, and man becomes the lord of methods an ultimately theology."

    Delete away!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4/14/2008 12:23 PM  

  • I never said that things are still the same.

    I will leave your comment stand, but it would be nice if you said who you are. Do I know you? Were you a member of EBC? I would enjoy conversing with you about it, but it is hard when you are anonymous. I do think your comment makes some good points.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 4/15/2008 10:24 AM  

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