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Monday, March 03, 2008

Ohio Primary

Tomorrow is the primary electioin in my state, Ohio. It is an open primary - so one can vote for whatever candidate they want, regardless of party.

I can't believe this is coming off my keyboard, but I think I am going to vote for Hillary Clinton tomorrow. McCain seems to have it all wrapped up so I can't exert any influence in my own Republican party's choice for nominee. Even though I am not crazy about McCain, I think he is better than any Democrat. I think he could beat Hillary easier than Obama. Therefore I am going to vote for Hillary.

I wonder if there are many other Ohio Republicans doing this kind of thing? Or Texans?

Does it make sense?


  • I think it is a smart strategy. There were a number of people in my area of Georgia who did the same thing.

    By Anonymous Gordon Cloud, at 3/03/2008 9:53 AM  

  • For what is worth...if I were voting, then I would vote to keep HC out altogether. If she loses the Democrat nomination, (as opposed to the Presidential contest) then we mightn't hear of her again. (Wish list) OTOH, if she gets a go at the Whitehouse against McCain and is narrowly beaten, your stomachs might well be churning next time as well. I know Al Gore got so close, missed it, and then decided to lecture the world on light bulbs, but I can't see Little-Miss-Ambition taking up watercolours if she manages to get a crack at the Presidency. I think that she is a bigger threat than the MLK II wannabe


    P/s I hope that doesn't come across too nasty.

    P/s I wish that the American dollar would face down the Euro - British Sterling is getting a hard time as well against it.

    By Blogger GOODNIGHTSAFEHOME, at 3/03/2008 9:55 AM  

  • I think that is a great idea.

    Although I like McCain and would vote for him, I could see myself voting for Hillary too.

    I did hear one Christian saying that he thought tactical voting was always wrong. He said it showed a lack of faith in God's providence. But I dont agree with him.

    God Bless


    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 3/03/2008 9:56 AM  

  • Rose, I may have to delink you if you dare to vote for Hilary.

    I think Obama is more defeatable than Clinton in the general election. Besides Obama is definitely the lessor of two evils on the democratic side.

    Why not vote for Huckabee and at least let your conscience have a say.

    Strategic voting is useless in my view as this election has already produced three contenders; none of which care for Biblical morals.

    By Blogger Jim, at 3/03/2008 11:49 AM  

  • Jim, what are Biblical morals?

    We all agree about abortion. But what about taxes? The Iraq War? The War on Terror? Immigration? What does the Bible really say about any of those things?

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 3/03/2008 12:15 PM  

  • Hillary seems tougth.

    I might not agree with her policies, but I could respect her as a strong leader.

    Obama just seems phoney and incredible.

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 3/03/2008 12:16 PM  

  • Hi, Rose. Yes, it makes sense.

    I also think I agree with Matthew. Obama seemd a little "sly" to me. At least when Hillary double-talks, it is obvious. ;)

    By Blogger Missy, at 3/03/2008 12:45 PM  

  • I'll be back here in November if Hillary beats McCain :)

    By Blogger Kansas Bob, at 3/03/2008 1:57 PM  

  • At least when Hillary double-talks, it is obvious. ;)

    What do you mean, Missy? Her lips move? :o)

    Here enough of this...

    By Blogger GOODNIGHTSAFEHOME, at 3/03/2008 2:04 PM  

  • Wow, either you people have a short memory of you have been seduced by Hilary's smooth talking. Do you folks honestly think Bill will sit by while his wife rules the nation? Hardly! I don't think we can afford to repeat the 90's.

    Matthew, I think we all know what Biblical morals are.

    As for taxation; John McCain will not be much different from the Democrats on taxation policy. Look at GWB, he didn't exactly handle the budget like a true conservative.

    The Iraq war is not a moral issue but a political one. Same with immigration and the war on terror. There are biblical principles in approaching every issue.

    By Blogger Jim, at 3/03/2008 2:48 PM  

  • Don't do the Clintons any favors (they don't return them)


    By Blogger Antonio, at 3/03/2008 3:30 PM  

  • I had not thought of doing that, Rose. Hope it works. I can't get excited at all about this election, except about keeping the Dems out. Nevertheless, I will vote unless I am totally unabble to get out. God Bless.

    By Blogger David Wyatt, at 3/03/2008 9:13 PM  

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    By Blogger VA ~Susan, at 3/04/2008 9:23 PM  

  • Hi Rose!

    I did what I could. I voted for Ron Paul! Too bad so many Christians and the press just ignored him.
    I believe that this war in Iraq is a terrible mistake. Our best friends' oldest son is over there now after completing his three years as an Army Ranger last fall having already done a tour in Afghanistan. He was not allowed to leave when his time was up and has been sent to Iraq for 15 mos.
    He's a captain now.

    By Blogger VA ~Susan, at 3/04/2008 11:58 PM  

  • I heard Hillary won Ohio by one vote. Your plan worked!

    (Just kidding)

    By Anonymous Gordon Cloud, at 3/05/2008 12:27 AM  

  • Hi Rose,

    Good job on getting out the Hillary vote in Ohio :).

    I think it will now be interesting to see the Republicans who have a nominee and who can focus on crafting his message, policies, etc....and the Democrats who are going to be "duking" it out until the convention. They will continue to focus on pointing out to the nation the negatives of their fellow democratic oppoonent...and the Republicans can focus on positives....I like it.

    I am not thrilled with McCain....but I shutter to think of what our nation will be like under either Obama or Clinton. So, lesser of three evils..... :)


    By Blogger Kurt, at 3/05/2008 8:16 AM  

  • Hi everyobody,
    I forgot all about this post and never commented! I want to thank you all for your thoughts.

    I don't like her at all. "Stomach churning" is a good description of how I feel when I think of her being the President of the US. (yikes.)

    That alone gave me pause when I pulled the lever Tuesday. (Actually, it was an electronic tough-screen)

    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/06/2008 9:29 AM  

  • Jim,
    In that case, I will never tell you if I did vote for her. I would not want you to de-link me. :~)

    I think strategic voting is a good idea. What is the use of going in and voting for McCain who was already the presumptive nominee?

    Then again, as Kansas Bob points out, if she becomes the President and I had voted for her in the primary to try and be strategic, it would haunt me!


    hahaha... that would have been funny. :~)

    You get my thinking!

    Ron Paul huh? What is it you like about him?

    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/06/2008 9:34 AM  

  • Rose, with all due respect I think it was the pragmatism of American evangelicals that allowed McCain to become the nominee. That and an apathetic attitude towards politics and government policy by so many.

    Ron Paul has more common sense in one sentence than some politicians can find in their entire careers. I think we forget that the system of government rests upon a legal framework. The constitution, while not flawless, represents a unique document in drafting the rights and protections of the individual over the threat of a totalitarian state.

    Too many these days are abdicating their rights and freedoms due to a simple ignorance of what they are legally entitled to and responsible to protect.

    Whether or not America becomes a puppet state of globalist ambitions is becoming less of a question and more of a reality. A democratic victory will provide many more nails in the coffin of sovereignty.

    God bless,

    By Blogger Jim, at 3/06/2008 5:19 PM  

  • Rose, this may be unrelated, but I don't think so. This is especially close to home for me & any in Christian Radio. Let me just share this link, & please pray, pray pray. I am not one given to conspiracy theories or fantasy, & neither is BBN. But this is a real threat. Here is the link: http://www.savechristianradio.com/

    God Bless.

    By Blogger David Wyatt, at 3/06/2008 8:22 PM  

  • Read Peggy Noonan's comments in her column in the Wall Street Journal (at the end). She predicts Hillary will win the general election. I think she will too.

    By Blogger Earl, at 3/07/2008 12:56 AM  

  • David,
    Thanks for that heads up. I see there are suggestions on that site of what top do to try and stop this. I will be doing at least one of those things. What have we come to?

    Help me. I am not sure why you say that the pragmatism of American evangelicals [is what] allowed McCain to become the nominee?

    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/07/2008 9:19 AM  

  • Thank you Earl. I hope Peggy is wrong!

    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/07/2008 9:19 AM  

  • Earl,
    I am pasting that here. It isn't really her prediction, but I think she indicates that it resonated with her:

    I end with a deadly, deadpan prediction from Christopher Hitchens. Hillary is the next president, he told radio's Hugh Hewitt, because, "there's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power . . . people who don't want the meeting to end, the people who just are unstoppable, who only have one focus, no humanity, no character, nothing but the worship of money and power. They win in the end."

    That is also how I think of Hillary.

    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/07/2008 9:29 AM  

  • I can't believe I almost voted for her...


    By Blogger Rose~, at 3/07/2008 9:30 AM  

  • Ron Paul seems like a freak to me. Like somebody from another planet.

    If we are pragmatic in business, we should be pragmatic in politics too. It is what you accomplish that counts.

    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 3/07/2008 10:11 AM  

  • Good for you Rose. So am I. The trouble with so many of thehoaxes of the recent past & even present, such as the M.M. O'Hair (sp?) one is that it makes the real thing such as this one look false too. But it is very real & potentially destructive. Thanks for allowing me to post this here. May the Lord bless you all!

    By Blogger David Wyatt, at 3/07/2008 11:15 AM  

  • "I can't believe I almost voted for her..."


    "If we are pragmatic in business, we should be pragmatic in politics too. It is what you accomplish that counts."

    Matthew, that is truly a disconcerting thought. Do you carry this over to spiritual matters as well?


    What I was referring to about pragmatism was the following scenario.

    As Christians we have become accustomed to voting for the lessor of two evils or in the case of the primaries the most electable conservative.

    But here we had a republican with truly Biblical morals regarding key evangelical issues and many wrote him off because he wasn't as fiscally conservative as they would like. To me that kind of pragmatism reeks of spiritual compromise.

    As someone once said, "we get the government we deserve".

    Being salt and light means much more than simply telling people about Jesus. It means living according to the word of God even when it is not the most expedient.

    Are we willing to put our money and vote where our faith is? Or do we really trust that ungodly men will look out for the best interests of the nation?

    By Blogger Jim, at 3/07/2008 1:26 PM  

  • Jim
    'Do you carry this over to spiritual matters as well?'

    As far as I know I don't.

    Oh, one example I can think of:

    I do read from the NIV if that is the version that a church prefers when I am preaching. I do not approve of this translation, but I would hate to offend a congregation and I am sure they are edified by my preaching.

    God Bless


    By Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, at 3/07/2008 1:48 PM  

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